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Paradidles

Post by dzapoemir » December 9th, 2010, 3:30 pm

Malo razgledam po forumu i svidja mi se ali cudi me da niko nije zapoceo temu o paradidlovima pa radi drugih ljudi evo nekih pa ako neko zeli nek doda jos koji ako je izmislio ili mu neko pokazo

RL RR LR LL RL RR LR LL dobro ovaj se vise zna

RLL RLL RRL RL RR LRR LRR LLR LR LL to je neka duza verzija

RLL RRL RL RR LRR LLR LR LL pa malo ko krace

RLL RR LRR LL ili jos krace

Pa eto ljudi za rad drugih ljudi dodajte po neki svoj paradidl POZDRAV
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Paradidli sa akcentima

Post by argaroth » February 20th, 2011, 9:00 pm

evo male zanimljive vezbe :) kollias mi dade inspiraciju sa njegovim Syncopated Inverted Paradiddle-om :)
recite sta mislite :)
EDIT: zaboravio sam da dodam akcenat na poslednjem udarcu u 6. baru :ranting:
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Re: Paradidles

Post by gradacac » December 9th, 2013, 2:41 pm

majstore hvala puno za ovo to je najvažnije za ručnu tehniku pozdrav
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Re: Paradidles

Post by Goatbeard » February 4th, 2014, 4:31 pm

Ovo je jedan od najlepših i najkorisnijih rudimenata (subjektivno) i mislim da bismo mogli da mu posvetimo još malo prostora.
Za početak,informativan članak o istorijatu bubnjarskih rudimenata,obogaćen notnim zapisima osnovnih, kao i spoljnim vezama i izvorima.
Naravno, Wiki stranica:
http://www.en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradiddle

Naše kolege na Drummer World forumu nedavno su pokrenuli temu o istoriji Paradiddle-a konkretno,pa ću iskoristiti priliku da citiram post John-a Wooton-a,pravog frika za rudimentalno sviranje i bubnjarskoj javnosti poznatog edukatora. Smatram da nije suvišno imati te podatke i na našem forumu zbog budućih bubnjara/ki koji će možda imati želju ili potrebu za opširnijim istraživanjem.

JohnW: " Some trivia to help if you have insomnia:
I have modern copies of Benjamin Clark's Drum
Book from 1797 and Charles Stewart Ashworth's
A New , Useful and Complete System of Drum
Beating from 1812. In both of them, the
paradiddle has accents on the first two strokes,
RLrr, LRll. In Bruce & Emmett's The Drummers'
and Fifers' Guide from 1861 and Gardiner
Strube's Drum & Fife Instructor from 1869 (I have
a reprint of Strube's list from George Lawrence
Stone in his Military Drum Beats for School and
Drum Corps 1931- republished 1958) the
paradiddle is written as played in modern form;
an accent on the first beat: R lrr, Lrll.
However, in Phillip A. Sousa's The Trumpet and
Drum from 1889, the paradiddle is listed with two
accents again: RLrr, LRll.
By the time N.A.R.D. came around in 1933 and
up through the PAS in 1984 to today, the
paradiddle in it's traditional form has just one
accent on the first of four strokes: R lrr, L rll.
If you want to delve into this type of stuff further,
check out Jim Clark's Connecticut’s Fife and
Drum Tradition from 2011:
http://www.upne.com/0819571410.html
Or James Blade's Percussion Instruments and
their History from 1971. Or if you really want to
sleep, but need to find out the importance of
drums in during the 18th Century, try Raoul
Camus' book Military Music of the American
Revolution from 1975."

Tema na DW forumu: http://www.drummerworld.com/forums/show ... p?t=113927
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Re: Paradidles

Post by Goatbeard » February 10th, 2014, 4:04 pm

"More input!" (No.Johny 5) ;)

Podsetnik na korisnu knjigu sa obiljem varijacija na osnovni paradiddle: Pete Lockett - Symetrical Sticking For The Snare Drum. Nećete verovati šta sve može da 'izađe' iz LdllDldd. :D

Edit: Knjigu u PDF formatu besplatno možete preuzeti sa sajta petelockett.com.

Obavezno pročitajte i uvodnu reč iz pera legendarnog Bill-a Bruforda-a: www.petelockett.com/2006/pages/symet%20stick.html
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Re: Paradidles

Post by downbeat » February 10th, 2014, 5:45 pm

Goatbeard wrote:...Nećete verovati šta sve može da 'izađe' iz LdllDldd. :D
Da, u potpunosti se slažem. Gomilu varijacija samo sa jednom paradidlom. Preodobra stvar.
Današnji bubnjari se satraše da sviraju ultrazajebane stvari.. gomila nekih neparnih dijelova, poliritmovi i šta sve ne.. Niko više i ne obraća pažnju na paradidlove iliti rudimente.
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Re: Paradidles

Post by Goatbeard » February 10th, 2014, 9:26 pm

U pravu si 101%.! Koliko god imam respekta za vreme i trud koji su uložili u napucavanje fora i fazona (u solo tačkama zvuče kao vanzemaljci),toliko prema većini ne gajim ni najmanje simpatije u kontextu benda;nadsviravanje sa ostalim instrumentima i najgore od svega - ne postoji pravi gruv! Ništa tu 'ne vozi' pesmu,samo trpaju sve što stignu u svaki jeb..i takt.

'Manje je više' - u prilog tome još Lockett-ovih transkripcija. Ovo je pravi domaći zadatak za sve,pogotovo što je reč o frazama nastalim iz paradiddle-a,a znamo da je to teza iz doktorata Dr. Gadd-a!. :D
http://www.petelockett.com/pete%20new%2 ... ckett.html
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