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Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: January 13th, 2008, 11:45 am
by Mare
Vinnie Colaiuta
Jedan od bubnjara na čiji rad sam u poslednje vreme veoma fokusiran. Začudilo me je to da niko nije već postavio temu o ovom odličnom muzičaru. Verujem da će se mnogi složiti da je Vinnie vredan pažnje na ovom forumu.

Pogledajte jedan odličan 4/4 groove od Vinnie-a
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkQgFXjvnO4[/youtube]

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: January 13th, 2008, 1:27 pm
by Loshme
Nisam imao prilike da cujem njega jer niko mi nista nije ni govorio za njega pa onda ali ssam se dobro zajebao :zid:
Svidja mi se kako drzi ritam, cvrsto, a pogotovo kada ide ono ''ispadanje'', ispravi me kako se kaze !! :heavy:
Slazem se da je vredan paznje na ovom forumu !!! lol

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: January 13th, 2008, 1:36 pm
by digrejzo
ja sam njega prvi put video kad sam trazio Steve Gadda na drummerworld.com-u, i odgledao sam onaj odlican drum battle izmedju Steve Gadda, Vinnie Colaiute i Dave Weckla. Najvise mi se svidjao onaj "kraj" Vinnijev (ko je gledao zna na sta mislim). Mislim da je odlican bubnjar, svirao sa velikim bendovima kojih ima mnogo (Sting, Frank Zappa itd itd ..). U poslednje vreme sam nesto zaboravio na njega, pa se nisam setio da postavim temu. :chears:

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: January 16th, 2008, 7:58 pm
by MarcusS
digrejzo wrote:ja sam njega prvi put video kad sam trazio Steve Gadda na drummerworld.com-u, i odgledao sam onaj odlican drum battle izmedju Steve Gadda, Vinnie Colaiute i Dave Weckla.
Kad smo kod toga, to je neopisivo dobar klip. Idem da okačim gde god mogu. :)

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ln6b_nBM-V8[/youtube]

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: January 22nd, 2008, 1:19 pm
by Miron
Lik je totalni freak...zaista citao sam o njemu gomilu intervijua jer kad sam usao (da naglasim slusalachki) u fusion vode, njegove ime je bilo prvi vrhu liste najboljih i najsvestranijih bubnjara, a nisam kapirao njegovu svirku u opste. On je zaista kralj poliritmijkog sviranja kao i linearnog pristupa svirci. Uchenik je velikog Garry Chaffe-ja kao i Stive Smith...i secam se da sam citao da su materijal koji im je Garry dao Smith i Colaiuta vezbali svaki dan ceo dan, dok jedan od njih bukvalno vise ne moze da sedi od umora...i zaista za takvu svirku je neophodno biti konstantno u top formi.Za one koji nisu do sada imali priliku da slusaju kolajutu malo vise predlazem sledece
Karizma album Document, zatim Jing Chi, i naravno stingov album ten summoners tales (ultimativni groove u 5/8 Seven Days)
Ovo je glupo reci, i nemojte da me shvatite pogresno zaista postujem coveka apsolutno, ali moja zamerka ide na racun njegovih emocija u svirci...mnogo mi je brate "hladan" dok svira...ne osecam dubinu groova, za razliku od steve gadd-a, ali to je neka druga pricha
Pozz

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: January 22nd, 2008, 3:33 pm
by MarcusS
Miron wrote:ne osecam dubinu groova, za razliku od steve gadd-a, ali to je neka druga pricha
Pozz
Sa ovim se slažem, Gadd kao da unosi celog sebe u ama svaki udarac.

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: January 23rd, 2008, 3:04 pm
by Miron
MarcusS wrote:
Miron wrote:ne osecam dubinu groova, za razliku od steve gadd-a, ali to je neka druga pricha
Pozz
Sa ovim se slažem, Gadd kao da unosi celog sebe u ama svaki udarac.
E lepo recheno, bas na to sam mislio...

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: February 6th, 2008, 10:51 am
by Miron
Evo sta steve vai rece za Vinnia...mislim da to zaista dosta govori o sposobostima gurua poliritmije...
Steve Vai on Vinnie Colaiuta:

"I was just enamored with Vinnie. Back in the Frank days, his whole approach, when I heard Vinnie play, his phrasing - it satisfied something in my heart. It was easy to get certain rhythmic gratification from straight up-and-down-type players. Playing grooves, alternate grooves here and there. But Vinnie just came in and threw a wrench into the works. The guy is an alien. He was able to touch buttons with his sense of polyrhythms that no one has ever done. Frank's band was the perfect soundboard for that. I started transcribing his playing for The Frank Zappa Book. I mean, there's five to six different notations for the hi-hat! [laughs]

I'll tell you a really great Vinnie story. He's one of the most amazing sight-readers that ever existed on the instrument. One day we were in a Frank rehearsal, this was early '80s, and Frank brought in this piece of music called "Mo 'N Herb's Vacation." Just unbelievably complex. All the drums were written out, just like "The Black Page" except even more complex. There were these runs of like 17 over 3 and every drumhead is notated differently. And there were a whole bunch of people there, I think Bozzio was there.

Vinnie had this piece of music on the stand to his right. To his left he had another music stand with a plate of sushi on it, okay? Now the tempo of the piece was very slow, like "The Black Page." And then the first riff came in, [mimics bizarre Zappa-esque drum rhythm patterns] with all these choking of cymbals, and hi-hat, ruffs, spinning of rototoms and all this crazy stuff. And I saw Vinnie reading this thing. Now, Vinnie has this habit of pushing his glasses up with the middle finger of his right hand. Well I saw him look at this one bar of music, it was the last bar of music on the page. He started to play it as he was turning the page with one hand, and then once the page was turned he continued playing the riff with his right hand, as he reached over with his left hand, grabbed a piece of sushi and put it in his mouth, continued the riff with his left hand and feet, pushed his glasses up, and then played the remaining part of the bar.

It was the sickest thing I have ever seen. Frank threw his music up in the air. Bozzio turned around and walked away. I just started laughing."

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: February 6th, 2008, 8:01 pm
by MarcusS
Hahaha, extra priča. :)

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: February 28th, 2008, 9:33 pm
by Boris J
vinnie je bog!!!!

ja zaista duboko verujem u to...

da ne kazem bash da mu se molim pred spavanje ali gotovo da je tako...

ona pricha gore je priceless i svaki put kada je prochitam oraspolozi me... :D

toliko...

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: August 12th, 2008, 2:26 am
by drumsonly
Tek sada sam video ovu temu:)
Evo i ja da postujem neku anegdotu:) Samo sto sam u ovoj i ja ucestvovao.

Godina 1995. Ja na PIT-u. Ljut k'o ris. Spremao se za to godinu dana... ucio solfedjo, klavir, isao kod Karla na casove...

Dodjem tamo, polozim prijemni, dobijem i neku stipendiju... Na casovima se 'borim' sa onim tamo ostalim ludacima... Svi ubijaju! Sta cu, moram da vezbam...
Jedan dan ja u prostoriji vezbam neke budalastine... rolam po onom bubnju... i ulazi moj profan i kaze: to sto ti sada radis je bilo moderno pre 10 godina! Jel' si ti cuo za Dave Weckla?!?! Nego, pusti to (u fazonu 'nije to za tebe':)) i 'ajde samnom na jednu kliniku! Svira jedan moj drug!
Mislim se ja: I ja da sviram kao ti tako bih zezao ostale!

I odemo mi na kliniku Horacio Hernandesa.
Svira Horacio, ubija, naravno! I jos non-stop prica neke viceve!
Sedim ja gledam sebe, pogledam onog mog profesora, nije mu dobro... Okrene se on ka meni i kaze: I ja da sviram kao on pricao bih viceve!

Zavrsi se klinika, sedimo sada ja, moj profesor i Horacio... Pricaju njih dvojica o svemu i svacemu, znaju se 100 godina... ja malo dobacujem... Pohvalim Horacija, red je. Zahvali se on, uhvati sa obe ruke za glavu i rece: 'Nego... Gledao sam sinoc Colaiutu...cccc' :hail:
... eto...
Osecao sam se 'predivno'... Gde je profesor, pa Horacio, a tek onaj... Trebace mi 9 zivota...
Tada sam cvrsto resio da batalim sviranje i bacim se na trgovinu:))))))))

Epilog:
Jedina satisfakcija mi je sto je profesor batalio profesionalno bavljenje muzikom, Horacio muci Peru Radmilovica mnogo vise nego mene (svi oni Clave patterni na Hihat-u, Gajate i svi ti latinicni ritmovi), a Colaiuta mi je drug:)
Pobeda!

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: August 12th, 2008, 10:40 am
by Matija
samo sam cekao kad ces da se oglasis... :D
predivna prica.
:chears:

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: August 12th, 2008, 8:59 pm
by drumsonly
Hvala, kolega!
Bas bi mogao da navratis:)

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: August 12th, 2008, 9:22 pm
by Matija
ajde evo obecavam da cu doci. kad si u radnji, pa da se ispricamo ko ljudi.

Re: Vinnie Colaiuta

Posted: August 20th, 2008, 10:26 am
by Miron
Hahahahaha............ti si kralj.... :D