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Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
Pošto sam skoro uzeo novu makinu, namontirah je, ali nisam ništa stavio u bass bubanj od silnog ushićenja i radosti sklapanja, naravno isti zvoni li zvoni, pa me zanima:
- šta staviti unutra, koliko "toga", kako prisloniti gde šta kako, i kako koji materijal utiče na zvuk?
- oko pomenutih petcheva za mesto udaranja bat-a, kaže mi Drobac in personal da mnogo utiču na sam zvuk, pa možda i tu neka preporuka i savet, kao i objašnjenje.
Razumem da su ove stvari nekima od vas rutinske i dokone, ali podelite iskustvo sa onima kojima je isto potrebno
- šta staviti unutra, koliko "toga", kako prisloniti gde šta kako, i kako koji materijal utiče na zvuk?
- oko pomenutih petcheva za mesto udaranja bat-a, kaže mi Drobac in personal da mnogo utiču na sam zvuk, pa možda i tu neka preporuka i savet, kao i objašnjenje.
Razumem da su ove stvari nekima od vas rutinske i dokone, ali podelite iskustvo sa onima kojima je isto potrebno
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
Ja sam uzeo te male flekica za membranu, da bih je zashtitio, a ujedno ta chuda zaista malo poboljshaju zvuk, daju jako lepu tachku...
a za unutar bass bubnja...Ja recimo nisam nikada obracao paznju na materijal, samo da ga zadenfujem taman toliko da ne zvoni....spoljna membrana igra isto ulogu u svemu tome...
a za unutar bass bubnja...Ja recimo nisam nikada obracao paznju na materijal, samo da ga zadenfujem taman toliko da ne zvoni....spoljna membrana igra isto ulogu u svemu tome...
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
Mrzi me da prevodim:
Pads and/or Pillows
1. One pad or pillow, or anything that covers a calculated 15-20% coverage against Batter head only: Beater attack is accentuated, tone and sustain linger.
2. One pad or pillow, 15-20% coverage against resonant head only: Beater attack will be lessened, tone and sustain develop as a short burst of energy followed by some bright overtones.
3. One pad or pillow, 15-20% coverage against Batter head and Resonant: Beater attack accentuated, overall volume diminished a bit, tone and sustain become focused, overtones diminished.
4. One pad or pillow, 25-30% coverage against Batter head and 15-20% coverage of Resonant: Beater attack becomes much sharper and accentuated, overall volume does not diminished much more than the above, tone and sustain become even more focused, overtones all but gone. When used with a single ply muffled batter head, easy to get very sharp sound. Good choice for mic use.
5. One pad or pillow, 25-30% coverage against Batter and Resonant: A very focused sound, which becomes ideal for close micing of a kick drum. Beater attack becomes as sharp as it gets, overall volume does not diminished much more than the above, tone and sustain become short bursts of energy that when listened to without a mic, seem lifeless. A distinct “punch” sound.
Sto se paceva tice koristim Remo Falam Slam od 4 inca ali sam ga malo skratio sa gornje i donje strane, taman tako da stanu batovi duple pedale.
Pads and/or Pillows
1. One pad or pillow, or anything that covers a calculated 15-20% coverage against Batter head only: Beater attack is accentuated, tone and sustain linger.
2. One pad or pillow, 15-20% coverage against resonant head only: Beater attack will be lessened, tone and sustain develop as a short burst of energy followed by some bright overtones.
3. One pad or pillow, 15-20% coverage against Batter head and Resonant: Beater attack accentuated, overall volume diminished a bit, tone and sustain become focused, overtones diminished.
4. One pad or pillow, 25-30% coverage against Batter head and 15-20% coverage of Resonant: Beater attack becomes much sharper and accentuated, overall volume does not diminished much more than the above, tone and sustain become even more focused, overtones all but gone. When used with a single ply muffled batter head, easy to get very sharp sound. Good choice for mic use.
5. One pad or pillow, 25-30% coverage against Batter and Resonant: A very focused sound, which becomes ideal for close micing of a kick drum. Beater attack becomes as sharp as it gets, overall volume does not diminished much more than the above, tone and sustain become short bursts of energy that when listened to without a mic, seem lifeless. A distinct “punch” sound.
Sto se paceva tice koristim Remo Falam Slam od 4 inca ali sam ga malo skratio sa gornje i donje strane, taman tako da stanu batovi duple pedale.
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
Ja koristim jedno cebe koje je polozeno samo po dnu basa i daje bas dobar zvuk tako zadenfovan. Raspitivao sam se pre za sundjere ali kazu da to nije bas pametna ideja.
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
Ja koristim sundjer, pre sam koristio cebe i veruj mi, nema tu nikakve razlike. Jedina razlika je u postavci denfa. Procitaj ono na engleskom sto sam dao.MikePortnoy034 wrote:Ja koristim jedno cebe koje je polozeno samo po dnu basa i daje bas dobar zvuk tako zadenfovan. Raspitivao sam se pre za sundjere ali kazu da to nije bas pametna ideja.
Mi smo stari spid metalci, do kraja ostajemo dosledni svome stilu, nemojte da nam puštate ništa, ako nije tandara, tandara, tupa, tupa, seremo vam se u muziku.
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
remov patch na clear powerstroke-u... a demf je jedan jako mali jastuk (sa stolice iz gajbe)
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
Neko cebe za kauch... Previse mi je veliko pa cu da trazim sad nesto manje... Prosekao sam staru plastiku za bas bubanj i stavio napred ali mi je cebe veliko, pa moram naci neshto manje...
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
remo pinstripe sa evans patchevima, i evansov majushni jastuk tek da dodiruje beater head i prilicno opustena prednja koza...
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
mali update... ja sam izvadio sav denf... nastimovao sam ga josh "tackastije" i, s obzirom da je 20ica u pitanju skapirao sam da mi se josh vishe skroz bez denfa a i nemam neki problem sa overtones i sl... zvuchi stvarno opako sada... |m| (a razmishljam se trenutno, s obzirom da ce mozda da mi uleti neka kinta uskoro, da nabacim josh jedan pa da budem zao i naopak do kraja... ali videcemo... )
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
Meni se licno ne svidja zvuk bez denfa i pored toga sto koristim EMAD2. A i denf koristim da bih malo "obuzdao" plastiku, mnogo mi se odbija pedala od nje bez denfa.
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Kako si ga nastimovao "tackastije"? Zategao jos, ili opustio do granice gubitka rezonancije?Boris J wrote:mali update... ja sam izvadio sav denf... nastimovao sam ga josh "tackastije" i, s obzirom da je 20ica u pitanju skapirao sam da mi se josh vishe skroz bez denfa a i nemam neki problem sa overtones i sl... zvuchi stvarno opako sada... |m| (a razmishljam se trenutno, s obzirom da ce mozda da mi uleti neka kinta uskoro, da nabacim josh jedan pa da budem zao i naopak do kraja... ali videcemo... )
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
otpustio naravno... skoro do gubljenja rezonance... da... jebe mile majke...
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
To je to, samo jos vredi ubaciti peskirce ili mali jastuk da samo dodiruje batter stranu ako se koristi dupla pedala. Inace dolazi do nekotrolisanih sudara batova i koze dok osciluje.
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
e, sad sam ipak vratio denf... bio sad do prostorije na nekom djemu... i kao, aj ipak da ga vratim... ali i dalje je talme...
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Re: Patchevi za bas bubanj, sunđeri, ćebad i sl...
ja sam tek nedavno na rezo opnu (remo ambasador ebony - bez rupe!) sa unutarnje strane napravio 2 mala demfera od d-tape-a (iste kakve koristim na snare.može se vidijeti na fotkama).batter opna koju koristim je evans eq1, a kasa je 22x18.
mislim da nema potrebe stavljati nikakve jastuke i deke u bas bubanj...sve se da srediti ako imate dovoljno strpljenja igrati se sa štimanjem.
mislim da nema potrebe stavljati nikakve jastuke i deke u bas bubanj...sve se da srediti ako imate dovoljno strpljenja igrati se sa štimanjem.