Obrucevi

Stolice, stalci, pedale...

Moderator: Supermoderatori

User avatar
ProFTW
Virtuoz!
Virtuoz!
Posts: 2384
Joined: November 20th, 2007, 6:30 pm
Moj Bubanj: Gretch Catalina Maple, Istanbul Mehmet Samatya
Moji bendovi: Magic Audio Box
Inspiracija: Marco Minnemann, Derrick McKenzie, Mark Guiliana

Obrucevi

Post by ProFTW » February 18th, 2009, 2:16 pm

Koja je razlika u zvuku izmedju "die cast hoops", "2.0 hoops" i "2.3 Super Hoops"?
ka-PAU
User avatar
alexa
Virtuoz!
Virtuoz!
Posts: 1875
Joined: February 28th, 2008, 4:54 pm
Moj Bubanj: Pearl Masters, Sabian, Zildjian
Moji bendovi: Violent Chapter, Tea Break
Inspiracija: Bubanj
Location: Beograd
Contact:

Re: Obrucevi

Post by alexa » February 18th, 2009, 3:06 pm

Postoji samo razlika između livenih (die cast) i običnih (triple flange) obruča (hoops).

Image
Die Cast Hoop (liveni obruč)

Image
Triple Flange (obični)

Sve ostalo su varijacije imena za ova dva. Svaka frima tj. bubnjarski brend proizvodi ova dva samo im svako daje naravno različita imena da bi imali eto šta da prikažu kao svoje, čist marketing. Na većini bubnjeva danas se nalaze triple flange obruči, jeftiniji su i daju veći sustain bubnjevima. S druge strane die cast su skuplji, jači i deblji, samim tim i bolje drže štim. Glavna karakteristika što se zvuka tiče je što priguše zvuk bubnja ali su zato znatno glasniji kada sviraš rim šot recimo.

Evo primera sa poprečnim presekom, prva dva su triple flange a treći die cast:

Image

Ja preferiram die cast na dobošu a ostatak bubnja triple flange...bar za sada :chears:
Zlo i napoako...666, 999
User avatar
Drobac
Supermoderator
Supermoderator
Posts: 3950
Joined: October 16th, 2007, 3:25 pm
Moj Bubanj: Sonor drums, Demon Drive pedals
Moji bendovi: Avet
Inspiracija: George Kollias
Location: Ruma

Re: Obrucevi

Post by Drobac » February 18th, 2009, 3:51 pm

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1UfQPlHS4d4[/youtube]

All mighty Bob Gatzen.
Mi smo stari spid metalci, do kraja ostajemo dosledni svome stilu, nemojte da nam puštate ništa, ako nije tandara, tandara, tupa, tupa, seremo vam se u muziku.
User avatar
alexa
Virtuoz!
Virtuoz!
Posts: 1875
Joined: February 28th, 2008, 4:54 pm
Moj Bubanj: Pearl Masters, Sabian, Zildjian
Moji bendovi: Violent Chapter, Tea Break
Inspiracija: Bubanj
Location: Beograd
Contact:

Re: Obrucevi

Post by alexa » February 18th, 2009, 4:02 pm

1:00
KAA-LANK!! Kralj!! :D :D

Veoma bih voleo da upoznam Bob Gatzen-a jednog dana.
Zlo i napoako...666, 999
User avatar
peratama
Virtuoz!
Virtuoz!
Posts: 1364
Joined: December 24th, 2008, 5:58 pm
Moj Bubanj: TAMA, istanbul mehmet
Moji bendovi: sherlock/Putrid blood
Inspiracija: sam sebi
Location: Sid

Re: Obrucevi

Post by peratama » February 18th, 2009, 5:06 pm

prostudirao sam sve njegove klipove..a ima ih bogami dosta i stvarno nemam reci za coveka.
TAMA starclassic performer
istanbul mehmet cymbals
vic firth sticks
gibraltar,iron cobra,DW hardware
User avatar
Ognjen
Virtuoz!
Virtuoz!
Posts: 2009
Joined: November 23rd, 2007, 6:18 am
Moji bendovi: KRK!, Star Scream
Location: Beograd/Čačak
Contact:

Re: Obrucevi

Post by Ognjen » February 18th, 2009, 8:47 pm

Postoji i single-flange hoop, i s-hoop koji su varijacija na temu triple-flange, a radi kao mesavina die-cast i obicnog triple-flange.
User avatar
miloš
Redovno vežba
Redovno vežba
Posts: 395
Joined: September 11th, 2008, 1:57 am
Moj Bubanj: Mapex proM, Paiste,Gibraltar, Vic firth, Remo
Moji bendovi: Harlekin, Pablo psihopata...
Inspiracija: Mike Protnoy, Chad Smith, Gavin Harrison

Re: Obrucevi

Post by miloš » February 20th, 2009, 2:04 pm

...posle ovog clipa mozete da zatvorite temu! :D :D :D
User avatar
peratama
Virtuoz!
Virtuoz!
Posts: 1364
Joined: December 24th, 2008, 5:58 pm
Moj Bubanj: TAMA, istanbul mehmet
Moji bendovi: sherlock/Putrid blood
Inspiracija: sam sebi
Location: Sid

Re: Obrucevi

Post by peratama » February 21st, 2009, 12:19 pm

bas tako slazem se, mislim da je receno sta treba.. lol :chears:
TAMA starclassic performer
istanbul mehmet cymbals
vic firth sticks
gibraltar,iron cobra,DW hardware
User avatar
ProFTW
Virtuoz!
Virtuoz!
Posts: 2384
Joined: November 20th, 2007, 6:30 pm
Moj Bubanj: Gretch Catalina Maple, Istanbul Mehmet Samatya
Moji bendovi: Magic Audio Box
Inspiracija: Marco Minnemann, Derrick McKenzie, Mark Guiliana

Re: Obrucevi

Post by ProFTW » February 21st, 2009, 5:48 pm

ali ostavite, siguran sam da ce nekog zanimati :D
ka-PAU
User avatar
STOKA
Dobošar
Dobošar
Posts: 40
Joined: February 21st, 2009, 9:52 pm
Moj Bubanj: Sonor Esential Force,Paiste
Inspiracija: Nicko McBrain, Dave Weckl, Mike Portnoy, Gavin Harison..
Location: Trebinje

Re: Obrucevi

Post by STOKA » February 22nd, 2009, 4:30 pm

Naravno da ce zanimati :D ,znao sam nešto o obručevima,ali sad skontah da je to 10 % ... zanimljivo ,koliko znače za sami zvuk...
User avatar
nemanja_cs
Virtuoz!
Virtuoz!
Posts: 1366
Joined: January 13th, 2008, 7:05 pm
Moj Bubanj: Mapex Meridian Maple
Moji bendovi: Magic Beans, TheBluesMachine, Drop λ
Inspiracija: G.Harrison, B. Greb...
Contact:

Re: Obrucevi

Post by nemanja_cs » April 23rd, 2009, 1:09 am

jel ima negde da se kupe/naruce die cast obrucevi za dobos 14" i kolko bi kostalo to?
Jedem. Spavam. Tandrljam.
http://www.youtube.com/11NeMaTz11
User avatar
Drobac
Supermoderator
Supermoderator
Posts: 3950
Joined: October 16th, 2007, 3:25 pm
Moj Bubanj: Sonor drums, Demon Drive pedals
Moji bendovi: Avet
Inspiracija: George Kollias
Location: Ruma

Re: Obrucevi

Post by Drobac » April 23rd, 2009, 1:15 am

Mi smo stari spid metalci, do kraja ostajemo dosledni svome stilu, nemojte da nam puštate ništa, ako nije tandara, tandara, tupa, tupa, seremo vam se u muziku.
User avatar
casualdrumer
Voljan da vežba
Voljan da vežba
Posts: 227
Joined: April 23rd, 2009, 5:57 pm
Moj Bubanj: Sonor F507-Paiste
Inspiracija: Dave Weckl,Mike Johnston,Steve Gadd,Yoyo Mayer
Location: Zrenjanin

Re: Obrucevi

Post by casualdrumer » April 28th, 2009, 4:49 pm

Da ne bi otvarao novu temu , da li postoje sanse da se Obruc iskrivi vremenom ? Ili se ja tripujem ili mi je obruc od Indijanca kriv ili je kriv obruc od plastike .. Desava mi se da iskace ... I plastika popusta tjs nabora se .. :blink:
"They always say time changes things, but you actually have to change them yourself."
User avatar
alexa
Virtuoz!
Virtuoz!
Posts: 1875
Joined: February 28th, 2008, 4:54 pm
Moj Bubanj: Pearl Masters, Sabian, Zildjian
Moji bendovi: Violent Chapter, Tea Break
Inspiracija: Bubanj
Location: Beograd
Contact:

Re: Obrucevi

Post by alexa » April 28th, 2009, 4:54 pm

Može da se iskrivi naravno, najčešće se dešava kod doboša. Skini obruč, stavi ga na sto (ili neku ravnu površinu, NE tepih, itison i sl.!!) i jednostavno vidi koliko se klati.
Zlo i napoako...666, 999
User avatar
Drobac
Supermoderator
Supermoderator
Posts: 3950
Joined: October 16th, 2007, 3:25 pm
Moj Bubanj: Sonor drums, Demon Drive pedals
Moji bendovi: Avet
Inspiracija: George Kollias
Location: Ruma

Re: Obrucevi

Post by Drobac » April 28th, 2009, 4:54 pm

Moze da se iskrivi.
Mi smo stari spid metalci, do kraja ostajemo dosledni svome stilu, nemojte da nam puštate ništa, ako nije tandara, tandara, tupa, tupa, seremo vam se u muziku.
Post Reply